Comments on: Expectations for accountability in higher education are still out there http://www.theother85percent.com/2009/12/accoutability-is-still-out-there/ Working adults and the new world of higher education Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:48:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mike Offerman http://www.theother85percent.com/2009/12/accoutability-is-still-out-there/comment-page-1/#comment-20053 Mike Offerman Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:50:47 +0000 http://www.theother85percent.com/?p=227#comment-20053 Thanks Bob and Paul. To your questions, Bob, I hope there are not more regulations because my observation is that regulations discourage rather than incite innovation. So, the idea is that colleges and universities need to become more open, more transparent about learning outcomes, in particular. That is what the institutions in Transparency by Design are doing--stating what we will deliver, how we measure it and what the results of the assessments show. If all schools did this, I think that the ones that gain will be those that, regardless of learning model or deliver method, can demonstrate that desired learning is occuring. Those that lose would be those that are those, that despite reputation, cannot or will not demonstrate learning outcomes. Mike Thanks Bob and Paul. To your questions, Bob, I hope there are not more regulations because my observation is that regulations discourage rather than incite innovation. So, the idea is that colleges and universities need to become more open, more transparent about learning outcomes, in particular. That is what the institutions in Transparency by Design are doing–stating what we will deliver, how we measure it and what the results of the assessments show. If all schools did this, I think that the ones that gain will be those that, regardless of learning model or deliver method, can demonstrate that desired learning is occuring. Those that lose would be those that are those, that despite reputation, cannot or will not demonstrate learning outcomes.

Mike

]]> By: Paul Angileri http://www.theother85percent.com/2009/12/accoutability-is-still-out-there/comment-page-1/#comment-19947 Paul Angileri Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:06:07 +0000 http://www.theother85percent.com/?p=227#comment-19947 I would definitely see K-12 suffering on some level, as I would think the reliance on passing tests would increase, what with tests being producers of easily quantifiable data for measurment purposes. Public schools might gravitate incorrectly in that direction so they can keep justifying funding. I think regulation with respect to what is taught in classrooms is an open question. I can see the bad in such actions but there would also be some potential good, particularly if science and math are brought back up to snuff. I think universities and colleges would maybe benefit more than suffer. They likely wouldn't be terribly willing participants but I can envision a future with commercials for universities during breaks in sports broadcasts selling themselves on outcomes scores in specific areas. But perhaps that's too simplistic, and it could be a herculean task. Would outcomes be measured yearly? By semester? Course? Degree program? How would regulations be enforced? I would definitely see K-12 suffering on some level, as I would think the reliance on passing tests would increase, what with tests being producers of easily quantifiable data for measurment purposes. Public schools might gravitate incorrectly in that direction so they can keep justifying funding. I think regulation with respect to what is taught in classrooms is an open question. I can see the bad in such actions but there would also be some potential good, particularly if science and math are brought back up to snuff.

I think universities and colleges would maybe benefit more than suffer. They likely wouldn’t be terribly willing participants but I can envision a future with commercials for universities during breaks in sports broadcasts selling themselves on outcomes scores in specific areas. But perhaps that’s too simplistic, and it could be a herculean task. Would outcomes be measured yearly? By semester? Course? Degree program? How would regulations be enforced?

]]> By: Bob Roan http://www.theother85percent.com/2009/12/accoutability-is-still-out-there/comment-page-1/#comment-19878 Bob Roan Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:58:56 +0000 http://www.theother85percent.com/?p=227#comment-19878 What form do you think regulations would take and how would that change higher education? What kinds of institutions would benefit from regulations and which would suffer? thanks What form do you think regulations would take and how would that change higher education?

What kinds of institutions would benefit from regulations and which would suffer?

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