Comments on: What happens when state universities prefer students from outside the state? http://www.theother85percent.com/2010/02/what-happens-when-state-universities-prefer-students-from-outside-the-state/ Working adults and the new world of higher education Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:48:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mike Offerman http://www.theother85percent.com/2010/02/what-happens-when-state-universities-prefer-students-from-outside-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-21233 Mike Offerman Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:00:19 +0000 http://www.theother85percent.com/?p=258#comment-21233 Sean, thanks for commenting. And for offering some very interesting information. It seems clear to me that we are in the midst of some remarkable shifts in American higher education. And, these shifts are raising interesting questions and will have both predictable and unpredictable consequences in both the short- and long-term. It certainly keeps things interesting. Mike Sean, thanks for commenting. And for offering some very interesting information. It seems clear to me that we are in the midst of some remarkable shifts in American higher education. And, these shifts are raising interesting questions and will have both predictable and unpredictable consequences in both the short- and long-term. It certainly keeps things interesting.

Mike

]]> By: Mike Offerman http://www.theother85percent.com/2010/02/what-happens-when-state-universities-prefer-students-from-outside-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-21232 Mike Offerman Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:57:04 +0000 http://www.theother85percent.com/?p=258#comment-21232 Paul, thanks for weighing in. Mike Paul, thanks for weighing in.

Mike

]]> By: Sean Gallagher http://www.theother85percent.com/2010/02/what-happens-when-state-universities-prefer-students-from-outside-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-21230 Sean Gallagher Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:22:54 +0000 http://www.theother85percent.com/?p=258#comment-21230 Hi Mike, a very timely post. As it turns out I was looking at these two issues (the coming stimulus-related reckoning, and the shift to out-of-state recruiting) yesterday for some strategic planning. On a related note, the public tuition increases continue to outpace the private. The public tuition rates have continued to increase at 7%, compared to 4% for privates... so while far from parity, the gap between out-of-state tuition at a flagship elite public and a selective private continues to shrink. These categories of institution will come more into competition with each other... and in 2011, we'll be hitting the bottom of the barrel in terms of the % of funding that is from the state at some of the 10-20% state funded/quasi-public institutions. Are they really public? The reports in the media of furloughs, strikes, and students being turned away have only increased (see San Francisco State in a recent NY Times article). I also think there will be more discussion about consolidating state systems and campuses. 2011 will be a very interesting year. Hi Mike, a very timely post. As it turns out I was looking at these two issues (the coming stimulus-related reckoning, and the shift to out-of-state recruiting) yesterday for some strategic planning. On a related note, the public tuition increases continue to outpace the private. The public tuition rates have continued to increase at 7%, compared to 4% for privates… so while far from parity, the gap between out-of-state tuition at a flagship elite public and a selective private continues to shrink. These categories of institution will come more into competition with each other… and in 2011, we’ll be hitting the bottom of the barrel in terms of the % of funding that is from the state at some of the 10-20% state funded/quasi-public institutions. Are they really public? The reports in the media of furloughs, strikes, and students being turned away have only increased (see San Francisco State in a recent NY Times article). I also think there will be more discussion about consolidating state systems and campuses. 2011 will be a very interesting year.

]]> By: Paul Angileri http://www.theother85percent.com/2010/02/what-happens-when-state-universities-prefer-students-from-outside-the-state/comment-page-1/#comment-21194 Paul Angileri Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:34:52 +0000 http://www.theother85percent.com/?p=258#comment-21194 You raise an interesting dimension to this question. My problem with this is that, of course they are courting more out-of-staters. They get all that extra cash for non-resident attendance. Naturally, once you introduce the privatized mindset, they will go where the money is. Maybe not always a bad thing, but education shouldn't follow the money, it should follow the aim of spreading as diverse an array of knowledge as possible. This is not a development that makes me take solace in where things are headed. Now, one could say the glass-half-full perspective is that while in-state students are pushed out of local Us, they quickly become the marketing targets of schools in other states, thereby the reduction in options taking a less significant toll than it seems. But what of all the others than that pursue more education but with limited financial resources? For convenience? For pleasure? You raise an interesting dimension to this question. My problem with this is that, of course they are courting more out-of-staters. They get all that extra cash for non-resident attendance. Naturally, once you introduce the privatized mindset, they will go where the money is. Maybe not always a bad thing, but education shouldn’t follow the money, it should follow the aim of spreading as diverse an array of knowledge as possible.

This is not a development that makes me take solace in where things are headed. Now, one could say the glass-half-full perspective is that while in-state students are pushed out of local Us, they quickly become the marketing targets of schools in other states, thereby the reduction in options taking a less significant toll than it seems. But what of all the others than that pursue more education but with limited financial resources? For convenience? For pleasure?

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